Dashboard > The DataPortability Project > Browse Space > News from
  The DataPortability Project Log In | Sign Up   View a printable version of the current page.  
  News from Mar 03, 2008
  2008/03/03
Last changed: Mar 28, 2008 10:50 by J. Trent Adams
Labels: news, f2f, sfo, events
What:
DataPortability local meeting
When:
Thursday, 20 March 2008, 6pm-9pm Pacific
Where: Six Apart Offices, 548 4th Street, San Francisco, California
RSVP: Upcoming page
Thanks:
David Recorden @ SixApart has been kind enough to arrange for the DP group to have access to the Six Apart Offices for this month's meeting.

Proposed Topics: 

  • We can review what we have done to date, how everyone can continue to contribute and discuss gaps we can all work towards filling.
  • Action Group presentations
    • activities to date
    • resources and commitments needed
  • Evangelism
    • Logo Contest - Mary Trigiani
    • Message Plan - Phil Wolff
  • Technical
    • The Great Challenges
  • Short presentation about OpenFile (http://openfile.net) proposal for standards-based file access authorization (Adam Rosien, Sharpcast) Sorry I won't be able to make it tonight, day-job production fixes looming! - arosien

February San Francisco meeting meeting notes:

We will attempt to Ustream.tv for those that are remote, so feel free to add items to this thread that you would like to discuss/address.

Questions, comments please post on this thread or contact me at danielavbarbosa [@]gmail.com.

Meeting Recordings:

Meeting Notes:

DataPortability Evangelism Action Group Meetup

Date: 3/20/2008 6pm PT

Attendees (in person):

Chris Saad
Ben Metcalf
Brad Fitzpatric
Steve Williams (digg)
Christopher Allen
Trent Adams
Mary Trigianni (Foldier)
Jim Myer (LinkedIn)
Kevin Marks (Google / OpenSocial)
Phil Wolff (Skype Journal)
Daniela B. (Dow Jones)
Tobias Pegs (NuMedium ?)
Ari Vallabhaneni (Wameeni)
Aaron Melberger (Wameeni)
Bob Ngu (JiggyMe)
Martin Wells (Tangler, Nick 33)
David Recordon (Six Apart)
Sam Usaid (Six Apart)
Abdul Kahm
Kaliya Hamlin (Identity Community)
Gil Silverman (Peerfluence)

Attendees (via Skype):

Elias Bizannes
Jacob Chapel
Brady Brim-DeForest

-------------

A. Chris gave same overview as on steering call (NOTE: copy notes from there)

B. Mary giving overview of Logo contest project (NOTE: copy notes from Steering)

  • About 300 or so submissions
  • Voting will be at: "DataPortablity.techcrunch,com"
  • Discussion of who owns standards logos (eg. WiFi logo).
  • Similar video contest project
  • Favorite your logos on Flickr and and submit to Confluence
  • Discussion about messaging at Web2.0 Conference

SIDE DISCUSSION: When setting up a camp at a conference, we need to be conscious of cost barriors.

C. Question: What's the general opinion of what's up?

  • Concern about how to keep up every day.
  • What's the highest signal to noise list?
    • Proposal: Should we have an announce only list?
  • Explosion of scope, hard to get our arms around.
    • Proposal: Should we pick a narrow idea and go from there?
  • Discussion of how to balance research / definition projects with "do stuff" projects.
    • Proposal of small technical implementation projects being good "Best Practices" to harness energy of community.
  • Primary concern is how to more effectively harness contributing energy lost in the "research / standards development" phases
  • Similar to "labs" or "sandbox" projects
  • Suggestion: Encourage these projects as part of researching solutions
  • There are different modes of research and learning
  • Change the "Implementation Action Group" to "Labs Development Group"
  • Go forth on Labs.
  • Need to develop a "Participation Guidelines" message.
  • Discussion regarding use of appropriate discussion, documentation, code repository workflows.
  • Update: DataPortabiltiy.org site is being redesigned to help clarify / solve some of this as the primary face

D: Research Project & Outreach Update

  • Focus on clear grid representation of the "what" and "who" so others can easily find those people.
  • Consider concept of an address book model
  • Deliverable: "contextual addressbook"
  • The single list of supported standards is highly valuable to a programmer.
  • Take the (existing?) mission statement and ensure the supported standards pass the litmus test
  • Discussion about APIs vs openness

E. Round Table Comments of Interest:

  • Chris Allen:
    • Wants help on Identity Commons Value Statement
    • CSS People
    • People to work on personalized "About Me" kind of pages
  • Kaliya Hamlin:
    • DataSharingSummit.com Events:
    • DataSharing Workshop April 18th, 19th
    • Internet Identity Workshop May 12th
  • Phil Wolf:
    • We need a marketing strategy to know when to say what to whom. Rolling talking points per month.
    • Thorny issues:
      • Data Interoperability Standards
      • Policy Issues
  • Kevin Marks:
    • SocialGraph API
    • Contacts API
    • OpenSocial work with external API

F. Next meeting @ LinkedIN (Mountain View) - Time/Date TBD

Labs Update (post meeting by Bob Ngu)

New Google Groups for Labs:  http://groups.google.com/group/dataportabilitylabs

New Skype Chatroom: http://snipr.com/dp_labs_skype

My first introduction post on Labs

http://groups.google.com/group/dataportabilitylabs/browse_thread/thread/ffb380dabbf3d0b2/ec1a3e9c45c1890a#ec1a3e9c45c1890a

Posted at 03 Mar @ 8:57 PM by Phil Wolff | 0 comments
Last changed: Mar 06, 2008 00:24 by Phil Wolff
Labels: meeting, mp3, minutes, call, steering, events, news

On this page:

Announcement 

Steering Group -

Here are the details for the next DataPortability Steering Action Group teleconference:

DATE: Tuesday March 4th
TIME: 9pm GMT [1]
WHERE: Skype +9900827041975640

Regarding the logistics, everyone wanting to join the call should gather in the Steering Group Skype Chat Room [1] around 15 minutes before the call starts (ie. 8:45pm GMT).  Any last minute updates will to the plan will be made there.

http://snipr.com/dp_steering_skype

As before, to ensure a smooth call that doesn't last forever and actually provides some value, here is the proposed agenda:

1. Roll call (and intros, if necessary).
2. State of the project update from Chris.
3. Brief Action Group updates.
4. Specific topics for discussion.
5. Summary and next steps.

Since it seemed to flow fairly well last time, I'll try to keep things moving along at a reasonable pace.  Please let me know, though, if you suggest any modifications to the process from the last call.

Regarding the specific topics of discussion, here is a list of items I received from various people:

A. Update on the Confluence migration (Elias?)
B. Update on ClearSpace evaluation (Chris?)
C. Rebranding Discussion:
      - Action Plan for Determining DP Logo Shortlist
      - Potential Web-based Voting Solutions
D. Update on Research & Outreach Project (Trent)
E. Round-the-room update on who's doing what.

If there are any other items we should add to this agenda, please reply to this message.  If you're chatting in Skype about ideas you'd like to discuss, please summarize them here or otherwise bring them to my attention so we can get them on the agenda.

Looking forward to continuing the dialog.

- Trent

[1] For those of you needing a cheat sheet for your time zone, here's what I believe to be the conversions for various locations:

Japan: 6am
Sydney: 8am
San Francisco: 1pm
Boston: 4pm
London: 9pm
Amsterdam: 10pm

Please let me know if I've made a mistake with any of these conversions.


Minutes

Attendees:

    Real Name (Skype name)
    J. Trent Adams (jtrentadams)
    Steve Greenburg (greenbes)
    Elias Bizannes (elias.bizannes)
    Phil Wolff (evanwolf)
    Julian Bond (julian.bond)
    Ian Forrester (cubicgardencom)
    Danny Ayers (prontohello)
    Brady Brim-DeForest (bradybd)
    Brett McDowell (myidiym) <= Liberty Alliance
    Christian Herrtopf (herrtopf)
    Paul Trevithick (paul.trevithick)
    Drummond Reed (phoned in)
    (improbulus)

Action Groups Updates

Evangelism Group (Elias) =>

  • Wiki migration
    • Moving pages from Google to Confluence is complete
    • public Google pages need to be redirected to corresponding confluence pages
    • Home page still doesn't link to the wiki
  • Logo Contest - More than 100 entries - DataPortability Logo Competition
  • New Skype orientation page
  • Concerns about staffing for a moderator to augment Marjolein 
  • Evangelism Group needs communication goals and a marketing strategy
  • Overall, lots of discussion, little work

Technical Group (Julian) =>

  • Technical Group is being held back by lack of a collaborative workspace
  • Ongoing research - Some progress on discovery 
  • Overall, not much progress
  • Action: Needs scope definition, project design, pump priming

Policy Group (Phil + Elias) => need scope definition / conscious effort

  • Very quiet. Time to get started.
  • "Define the problem" as the first stage?

Implementation Group (Julian) =>

  • combine with Technical Action Group? Contentious issue, no resolution.
  • Action: Need scope definition / conscious effort, project design, pump priming

Localization Group (Elias) =>

  • not a lot of activity. 
  • Need a separate group or combine with Evangelism?  Leave as-is for now.

Steering Group => Responsible for defining key outcomes and delegating to other Action Groups

March Goals:

  1. Question: Is DataPortability a technology or an approach to technology? A: More of a philosophy than a tool.
  2. Evangelism: Select new DataPortability Logo
  3. Evangelism: Confluence migration complete: communicate to community (on DP homepage) and deprecate existing GoogleGroup pages in favor of corresponding Confluence pages
  4. Evangelism: Finalize one page description of what DataPortability is/isn't to use as clear message statement. Write clear definitions regarding: data, portability, ownership
  5. Each group: Publish agenda for research
  6. Research: Outreach/Ambassador project defined, procedures designed
  7. Make March an operational month

Steering Action Group endorses these as key principles:

   1. Open to anyone to be involved
   2. Transparent in our decision making
   3. A consensus-based decision making model
   4. Collaboration, not invention

Floor Discussion Topics:

A. Update on the Confluence migration (Elias)
    + Done and live, waiting for finalization of migration.
    + Promote the Confluence link more heavily on Groups homepage, etc.
    + Link all Google page links to Confluence equivalent.
    + Delete body of Google pages after a month or so but link to replacement pages and home page

B. Update on Research & Outreach Project (Trent)
    + Outreach started, takes time to foster relationships, will improve reporting.
    + Liberty Alliance workshop on March 10th
    + Representation at conferences.  Formalization of a Speaker's Bureau? => Evangelism (see below).
    + Define measurement of success or completeness.
    + Begin formalizing discussion notes and child pages to get the ball rolling.

C. Rebranding Discussion: (Brady)
    + Action Plan for Determining DP Logo Shortlist
    + Potential Web-based Voting Solutions
    + TechCrunch to supply and host voting system

D. Evangelism Group:
    + February report, hoping to get it done by end of week.  Send in notes.  
    + Speakers Bureau will serve as center for coordination of available speakers and speaking engagements

E. Formal decision-making process
    + Wikiocracy seems to work.  Suggestion for management structures:  Participant Democracy, wikiocracy, group consensus model
            - "You're a member because you contribute."
    + Must be decentralized, speaking to the philosophy.
    + Some people / companies need to see structure in some form.
    + Define a more "agile" technique for membership
    + Ensure what we're doing will eventually play friendly with an eventual foundation model? no-op  
    + Defined Principles for Participation:  
              1. Open to anyone to be involved
              2. Transparent in our decision making
              3. A consensus-based decision making model
              4. Collaboration, not invention

F. Staffing issues:
    + Prepare for volunteer attrition
    + How will liaison's operate?
 

Conference call recording

Next meetings 


Feedback on the meeting itself


Posted at 03 Mar @ 9:59 PM by Phil Wolff | 0 comments

  March 2008
Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
            1
2 3 4 5 6 7 8
9 10 11 12 13 14 15
16 17 18 19 20 21 22
23 24 25 26 27 28 29
30 31          

Mar 17, 2008

Powered by Atlassian Confluence 2.7.1, the Enterprise Wiki. Bug/feature request - Atlassian news - Contact administrators